In this episode, Charlotte and Lucia Osborne-Crowley share their views about the live-streamed Heard v Depp defamation trial in Virginia, US. Lucia is an award-winning writer and journalist. Her news reporting and literary work appeared in Granta, GQ, The Sunday Times, the Guardian, The Lifted Brow and others. She’s smart and brilliant. Both Charlotte and Lucia followed the trial, which became trial by TikTok. It was all popcorn and drama until it became trauma porn in which Amber Heard was relentlessly mocked and ridiculed on our screens. They share their views about the effect that the trial will have on survivors who watched the visceral and intimate nature of the couple’s lives unfold on our screens. Where does this leave the MeToo movement?